THANKS they took ages to make but I am so proud of them ;u;
ALSO UH KIND...OF? I mean now that he has more memories of Lambda being A TERRIBLE PERSON WOW he is a lot more suspicious and annoyed at her! Buuuuut at least she's not as bad as Bern? And they were kind of buddies earlier in Aather and they both have logic error trauma? So while he might be less friendly, he does still kind of want to be friends with her. Because the thing with Battler is that he doesn't really want to hate people and tries to see the best in them as much as he can, so he'll probably keep trying on that front whenever he's not too grumpy to try '-'a
OH AND I FORGOT TO QUESTION DO YOU STILL LIEK ME LAMBDA???
Y... A developing understanding of what their relationship was like back home means she is a lot more mean and flippant towards him, but she doesn't actually like him any less. Which is not even different from her memories—I mean, she is awful to him, but there's a lot of "BATTLER IS AN INTERESTING GUY," "BATTLER DID A COOL THING" in there and it still applies. She thinks he's interesting and even a little respectable when he tries... but that also means she doesn't mind ripping into him when he doesn't meet those expectations. And bullying him is... fun... as well as just talking to him in general. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF COMPANIONSHIP SHE FEELS IN BEING THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN AATHER WITH LOGIC ERROR TRAUMA but she can't express that in any way that's not ridiculously roundabout. Ummm basically she likes him, she just doesn't make an effort to act like it.
What memories are you looking forward to Battler getting back?
PRETTY MUCH ALL HIS MEMORIES though at the moment I'm mostly focused on memories that get him closer to reaching the truth about Beatrice, since ever after her heart game he's been hanging between so close and yet so far to figuring it out and I'm interested to see just how far I can take it before he finally gets it.
Secondarily, memories about Ange, and about his family in general, since he has so few of those!
At this point I'm most looking forward to EP6 and EP8 stuff, I think!! For one, I'm excited for the talk Erika and Lambda have on the balcony in EP6 about hells just because it's probably my personal favorite Lambda scene overall, and also it will give her a lot more perspective about herself and her relationship with Bern, and up her self-awareness a lot. I also look forward to any scenes in EP6 and especially EP8 where she's a helper, because it's a different side of herself than she's seen in almost any of her memories so far and that could play out in an interesting way.
Does Battler have any thoughts about what he'll do when he gets back all his memories?
One thing he's pretty sure about is that he won't be going home! Even after getting out of the logic error, he doesn't think there's much for him to go back to, especially without Beato. I think Raven mentioned that he was going to show his world to Beato at one point, but I don't think Battler even remembers that. Or even if he did, he wouldn't want to think about what that would mean for him, since obviously he couldn't go with them!
For the most part he doesn't really have any concrete plans since he's aware he still has such a long time to go before getting all his memories back, but he has kind of vaguely been thinking of just staying in Aather.
She... would probably just also stay in Aather until she can't. She hasn't actively thought about what she's going to do a lot, but if she ran out of memories she'd take the Legacy Hero position in a heartbeat if it were offered to her. She's super attached to Kunzite and wouldn't leave them until she had to or if everyone she cares about left first. As for what she'll do when she can't stay in Aather at all anymore... she just kind of assumes she'll go back to doing what she used to do, and hasn't really considered that she has other options. Like, I do remember a long time Snow asked her if she was going home after Aather and her reaction was pretty much "... YES?!?! OF COURSE?!?! WHY WOULD I NOT?!?!?!" She really just hasn't ever given it super deep thought.
How would Battler feel about following Raven and Beato back to Raven's world if that were presented as an option to him?
He...wouldn't be sure how to feel about it, honestly! On one hand YES FOLLOWING BEATO WHEREVER SHE GOES FOREVER? But it's pretty clear them going to Raven's world is very much their own private romantic thing and he would definitely feel like he was getting in the way. So he wouldn't say no, but unless threesome end happened somehow or something like that, he would be very uncomfortable with the whole thing!
How does Lambda feel about the Personae? Does she have any that she particularly likes or dislikes?
Bbbbasically, she can relate to their role and doesn't resent them on a conceptual level (although sometimes she holds grudges over specific games anyway), but she doesn't particularly care about them because she doesn't really know any of them especially well. Nimue has sort of had a connection to Kunzite ever since they rocked out and invited her for tea in her poison game, so in that sense she is fond of Nimue and she also thinks she's pretty cute... but she doesn't especially feel like she relates to her in any deep way. And she hasn't really talked with any of the other Personae much. She might like Pan if she talked to her more???
I don't have that much of a preference placementwise - she's sociable enough that I think she'd work on pretty much any team that's not like...Iolite? Though I do think Heliodor or Ruby might be particularly good fits! Maybe Turquoise, too? Those seem like they'd fit her energetic nature.
Do you have any app plans? If not, any particular characters/canons you'd like to see apped aside from uminekos?
Battler likes Rose and Annabeth both! Though he hasn't talked with either in a bit WE SHOULD RECTIFY THAT
He kind of worries about Rose and feels that she should be more open about her feelings and such, but doesn't want to bother her about it either because he's aware he's not exactly a role model in that regard himself! All in all he largely sees her...well, if Emerald is his family, then Rose is like a cousin! So he's kind of protective of her and wants her to be okay, but isn't going to be all up in her business about it.
As for Annabeth, he is also looking for a chessboard quest and also wants to get to know her better, as Beato suggested he should do that in order to be better at chess against her '-'b
Also the character I want in Aather is a surprise to no one look at that sass goddamn. I think Ange would make for some really interesting interactions with the whole cast and of course she is very important to Battler especially! Plus she would complete the Emerald younger siblings set
If you were going to app an umineko character in aather who would it be and why!
I MEAN WE ALL KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BATTLER HAS WITH HIS COUSINS SO Rose would be quite honored '-'b
Also yes we should thread! I have Rose out in the last mingle and I can put Annabeth out anywhere, they are such cuties -- she will attempt to WIN ALWAYS!! at chess though because she loves winning. But she's not a bad winner, she likes learning too...
/)'w'(\ battler what a cutie!
UHM HMMM. Well I am lacking in slightly creepy but really adorable little girls and my age range in Aather can only get younger so at this point I think I would app Maria! There are a few characters I would consider, but Maria is the type of optimist I don't really have on my list of ladies at the moment (Jade aside of course, because she is not in aather). She would be a nice complement to Rose's reclusive pessimism and Annabeth's more outgoing realism.
But I have been told there are even more characters who I might love more coming up in a few episodes so I would really have to wait and see.
PICK A TEAM FOR CLEMENTINE '-'b Hard mode: not coral.
I will go tag Rose later today though not right now because I need to nap before school!
HMM I think Clementine might be interesting on Emerald actually! Because she has that stubbornness and conviction that really characterises the team, plus she would bring a more frank and open attitude that would really help the team I think! Or maybe Tiger's Eye or something, idk I just think she'd be cute on one of the more mature teams
UMM pick teams for the cousins from Umineko! super hard mode no coral for maria
Oh goodness hmmmm. I kind of want to put Jessica on somewhere like Sapphire! They seem like they have some genuinely good people on there who really care for everyone else, but also people that are like '-' yes let's be kind of sad and angry now!! And that's okay! Plus they wouldn't mind if she punched someone for great justice I think. George would be idk. He would be pretty bad on most teams, I think...but that may be because I don't really like him that much o o p s. I think he would do best on Amethyst.
Maria....I also like Amethyst for Maria, but I also like Turquoise as well! Because from what I've seen they seem to attract a pretty motley crew, but they all for the most part seem to be good people with a slightly weird and/or creepy past. Plus I think she would fight right in with their erratic occultish group of people -- being cute with Nia, stubborn with Echo, etc.
And then Ange is a knight because I say so!! 5ever alone Ange Ushiromiya A++ (and then Mal and the onyx knights secretly flufflove her into oblivion because we all know they are like a giant secret nest of good feelings)
NO I THINK THAT'S IT. What does Battler's mental timeline of his canon look like so far?
Haha oh god. OKAY LET'S SEE. Also um I'm going to try and leave spoilery stuff out of this for you?
around 1920s-40s?: Kinzo rebuilds the family, meets Beatrice??? and receives the gold 1968-1980: Childhood stuff in general, hanging out with the cousins and Shannon during family conferences THEN something happens with his parents??? Maybe a divorce or something??? (he kind of suspects his mom died, but doesn't want to believe it yet) Anyway as a result he goes to live away from his dad and stops going to the conferences Dad marries Kyrie, Ange is born Six years something something? No memories from that time! Some time during that George and Shannon fall in love 1984: Kinzo sets up the portrait and the epitaph 1986: Something changes with the parents situation and he makes up with his dad and goes back to live with him Some point before October 1986: Kinzo dies??? Going to the family conference! And that's when things get kind of muddy with the shift from reality to metaworld! He's pretty sure something similar to the game plotline happened at the real world conference though. First game: First day:Hanging out with the cousins and Shannon, talking about Beatrice and the epitaph Meanwhile the adults are arguing about the inheritance The storm hits Second day: Discovering the bodies of the first twilight victims in the shed Arguing with the servants and Maria about Beatrice's existence Second game: Starting it off with Beatrice in the metaworld! The first day goes more or less the same as in the first game, except this time Beatrice shows up as a piece herself! Second day: The chapel closed room for the first twilight, big fight over it with Beatrice, introducing the red truth Jessica runs off soon after the bodies have been discovered, and some time after that she and Kanon are killed in her room, which becomes another closed room After that Rosa starts making trouble suspecting the servants and pointing her gun at people The second game ends badly with Battler actually surrendering but regaining his will to fight? Don't remember the details of that yet though... The Stakes get kind of rowdy between games, dying a lot Third game: Ronove gets introduced at some point? The first twilight is a big mess of magic battles and it's all totally ridiculous until Virgilia shows up to explain how things work No memories of the rest of the third and fourth games and after that we're getting into spoiler territory so I think I'll cut this off here!
I KEEP FORGETTING QUESTIONS how about Rose's canon timeline?
HAHA WHAT A GREAT TIMELINE....okay so here is rose's:
Grows up alone with Mom and Jaspers Psychoanalyzes Jaspers and learns some Very Important Things Jaspers dies MYSTERIOUS GROWING UP SEQUENCE??? no memories here but obviously some growing happens Jade is a mystical wizard who proclaims the game on rose's 13th birthday Also John sends her knitting as a present! Dave sends her nothing, the jerk On john's birthday THE WORLD ENDS WITH METEORS AND FIRE John's first, rose follows other kids get in she guesses??? ENTER THE MEDIUM BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF SOME OGRES explore land, mom is gone!! trolls. . . . ? Kanaya //// Oops our session is doomed from the start BLOWS UP A GATE laughs about it!! talks to kanaya some more doc scratch appears and is a gigantic creeper begins destroying temples and such for the search for the green sun lies to john s t u f f. . . . MORE DOC SCRATCH also jade tells her that her mom is dead! MINDRAPE OF THE ELDER GODS ~~~mindrape stuff~~~ Dies, wakes up on Derse! Tricks Dave into falling asleep again and runs off with the suicide mission ~~~SOMETHING HAPPENS~~~ Is on a meteor with Dave and Kanaya, Roxy and imaginary Dirk (Dirk told her this part) -- talking about moms and also her frolicking through the doomed timelines with Davesprite! Also wearing orange pajamas.
Reading books. He is the hugest nerd, it is him. Seriously he spends like 90% of his free time just reading. It's an established canon fact that he always has huge piles of books in his room, or by his bed in Aather.
WELL Rose thinks of him as more of a big brother than anything else (and will probably continue to do so even after she ages up) and Annabeth has always known from the beginning that she was meant to be with Percy. '-'b Fate does cruel things to poor Battler's status as a player.
ANNABETH SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN THE LIBRARY. An inordinate amount, sometimes with Battler I'd assume, sometimes with Togame, but most of the time with Jr from Citrine. She's also found at least once a day doing a regular workout in the gym, with some variations -- she works on archery, as well as sword + shield work. She also takes regular lessons with Mithos in knife work, which she doesn't remember yet, but knows it's her absolute favorite. 'u'
Around lunch time she always goes back to Citrine and makes MEAT!!! for the crew because their resident cook is currently away with Dream on a heart game. She also checks in with all of her teammates and then, if Percy hasn't ALREADY been trailing behind her like a sad, lost puppy, he joins her and they hang out.
Current Raven feels are more or less the same as before, just more so? That is, Raven is a cool guy and Battler likes and respects him a lot, and considers him one of his best friends in Aather! But is also insanely jealous of his relationship with Beato because MY WITCH NOBODY ELSE ALLOWED!! Though he tries to keep that out of mind because clearly Beato loves Raven too and he wants to respect her feelings!
So while there is still a lot of awkward because of relationship issues, Battler's also a lot more comfortable with Raven in general which is why he felt okay coming to visit him in Tiger's Eye! Which probably means there will be less freaking out if the subject of kissing comes up again, he'll just try to laugh it off instead :|a
SO YES YOU SHOULD TELL ME ABOUT ERIKA
also thank you I am so happy with these icons omg u///u
Okay well the main changes for Erika->Battler is that she has mmmmmoderately more respect for him! Since she remembered the end of EP5 where he finds the solution and beats her. Obviously she has known that happened for a while but that's different than actually experiencing it! Also obviously she still hates him a lot for it but she can hate him a lot and still acknowledge that he came back from utter defeat and had a pretty clever twisted theory that beat her. :| :| :/a She actually had this thread with Vincent where Vincent asked for other people who might be interested in a murder mystery game, and Erika was like "no not really, even Battler would probably think you're a terrible Game Master." SO THERE YOU GO BATTLER YOU GOT SOME SIDEWAYS RESPECT, CONGRATULATIONS.
Though getting her logic error-setup murder memory did drop that back down a little, because really. What sort of lame closed rooms were those, that's the most predictable trick in the book. :|
She is also less confident that she actually kept him trapped since everyone keeps telling her she got beaten again, but that's mostly directed at Beatrice because she's the one offering that challenge!
Of course she's always on the lookout for ways to humiliate Battler again, because even if he did stay trapped he's clearly feeling entirely too okay about it at the moment. But you know, that's how it goes.
Battler kind of lost touch with his team for a bit because he was so busy with canonmates and there were a lot of games and events and such where teams got split up, but he's been talking with them more recently and is very happy about that! He very much continues to see Emerald as his family in Aather and makes a conscious effort to be the best teammate/brother figure he can with them. A lot of time that just means helping as much as he can in games or when one of them is having trouble or such, but he also tries to be more open and honest with them than other people to a degree. Not entirely though, because he doesn't want to worry them with his issues or his bad habit of dying a lot :x
I think he's also only recently started feeling less like 'the new guy' so he's more on equal terms with his senior teammates and feels more comfortable being less respectful and more natural with them.
Raven loves TE a lot. '-' He will openly say that he doesn't know what he would have done without them, because he knows a huge part of what has made him a better person in Aather was their influence!! Lately he ends up in this weird position a lot of the time where he doesn't think he's responsible or anything, but well he's clearly more responsible than Mitchell the unstable vampire murderer, and Naoto and Josh and Ferris will tell him he acts like the leader and that they have faith in him, and the others are kids/a puppy and someone clearly has to take care of them, so he ends up being more or less responsible and leadery? Which is helping a lot of his personal growth and self-confidence, even if he's still not great about it, but at the same time pulling him away from his team personally a bit because in his head he can't be responsible and be open and talk about his feelings and stuff because his problems are stupid and he's not actually an admirable person in any way. He is especially doing this with Regal because obviously he has to put on a good face for the new kid. '-'a
Though they call him on that sometimes! Like Sieh did in this recent game.
In general though he loves the team and cares about them all a lot and is happy they tend to be so functional, overall, because it means they're not actually relying on him too much.
What do you think it would have been like if Battler showed up as the first Umineko character in Aather?
Haha, that's really hard to say, since one of the main reasons I apped in the first place was the awesome Umineko cast!
I do think that I would have given him a different starter though, probably something from the first couple of episodes. That, plus not having Beatrice around and becoming aware of her feelings so soon, would have made him develop a lot more into his question arc self, as opposed to what has actually happpened with him taking on aspects both from Chiru and the question arcs! So he'd be a lot louder and more hotblooded and open about his feelings in general.
Also, without canonmates who share his experiences he'd have probably clung more tightly to his teammates more tightly and relied on them for emotional support '-'a
You gave Raven's impressions on Beatrice's timeline in your meme but what about Umineko in general? DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO HIM
Well, mostly not. He doesn't really have a whole lot of impressions of it beyond Beatrice! Basically everything Battler tells him is news, so you have seen most of his impressions IC.
He was vaguely under the impression that the game was an intellectual battle not exactly happening in reality before, but he's a very practical person so really getting the concept doesn't come very easily to him, and he doesn't have a whole lot of concrete examples anyway, although Battler explaining the chapel closed room puzzle helped some. He understands the idea of it being an important competition or a test for Battler though! And he believes that Battler can win it, both because he gets the impression that he did before and just forgot, and because it would be sad if Beatrice had to be disappointed.
It all seems to involve a lot of misunderstandings and Beatrice maybe or maybe not murdering Battler's family, though, so he sort of thinks they should move on to better and happier things as soon as that is dealt with...! And as far as the actual setting goes he basically gets the idea Beatrice's life was kind of a terrible trap of servitude, abuse and insecurity and she isn't missing anything good by not being there now that Battler is here.
YOU HAVE APP PLANS RIGHT I wasn't paying close attention. If so tell me about them!!
I am apping Lee Everett from the Walking Dead game as a knight as soon as I finish his app WHICH SHOULD BE TODAY OR TOMORROW. He's a history teacher who was going to prison for murder when the zombie apocalypse hit and then became a badass zombie fighter and surrogate father to the most adorable little girl in any video game ever.
And when hero apps open, I'm apping Asahina Aoi from Dangan Ronpa! She's a ridiculously enthusiastic athlete with a love for donuts who gets involved a Battle Royale/Phoenix Wright crossover and as a result gets a really awesome girlfriend and tons of character development!
no idea if I can actually handle three characters but there's no harm in trying, right
I don't actually have anyone else I particularly want to app right now! My app urges are actually very infrequent, which is why I played only Raven for such a long time until I found just the right female psychopath to app. (Guess who!!) And I haven't gotten super excited about any new canons since Tiger & Bunny!
I guess under the strict parameters of the question, if I had to drop someone and app someone else, I would drop Kotetsu and app Karina from Tiger & Bunny instead. Like a reasonable person.
OKAY SO there's a school called Hope's Peak Academy! It only accepts in students who are the top of their chosen field or Super High-School Level; for example, Asahina is a SHSL Swimmer. The game's protagonist, Naegi Makoto, is kind of a special case, though. He won a lottery arranged by the school and because of that was accepted in as SHSL Good Luck.
So Naegi and the other new students enter the school, but immediately pass out and wake up to find that every door and window leading to the outside has been tightly locked, trapping them inside. A stuffed toy/robot called Monobear appears, claiming to be the headmaster, and tells them the only way to get out of the school is to "graduate". The way to graduate? You have to kill one of your fellow students without being discovered by the others. If you succeed, everyone else is killed and you get out. If the others find out you're the culprit, you're killed and the others keep going. Later on, Monobear keeps providing the students with "motives": threats to loved ones, threatening to reveal everyone's darkest secrets unless a murder occurs, etc.
Eventually bodies do start appearing, and it's mostly up to Naegi to investigate and find the true culprits. Every time there is a murder, Monobear sets up a School Trial where the students must provide evidence and arguments to try and prove their innocence or someone else's guilt. The trials are very much in the style of Phoenix Wright or Umineko, with a lot of dramatic yelling and coloured text and arguments taking the form of metaphorical bullets. Alongside the murder storylines, you also get to learn a lot about each student's past and personality as well as the trying to uncover the truth about the school and the mastermind behind all these twisted events.
Basically it's a really cool and fun game and definitely worth checking out! There's an excellent Let's Play/translation of it right here!
...Honestly Battler has no idea what is going on with this relationship or where it is going?? He finds himself very much in love with Beatrice even though he's not entirely sure how he got there from thinking that maybe she's not entirely bad. He's okay with it though '-'a
There's two big issues there, the first of which is Raven! Because obviously he is also very close with Beatrice, and it makes Battler pretty damn jealous, especially since Raven's been there longer in Aather and because he still seems to know something Battler doesn't! But Raven is also a really cool guy and a good friend and even actively helping out with solving Beato's riddle? So there are a lot of conflicting feelings there and no idea how things could get resolved.
The second thing is that obviously Battler still hasn't figured out what Beatrice's deal is. So since he doesn't understand her motives, he has no idea how to reconcile the Beatrice from his memories with the things he's learned about her in Aather and that just makes things extra confusing!
Mostly he's just doing the same thing he has for a while now, which is to go along with what happens and wait for things to make more sense '-' Though recently I've been prioritising memories that motivate him to try and think a little harder about what it all means, so we'll see how that goes!
Look at me cleverly responding after recent developments have happened.
THERE'S STILL PART OF HER THAT WONDERS HOW MUCH HE'S ACTUALLY SOLVED THE MYSTERY since he more alluded to things than actually "proved" anything to her, but she's willing to take that as a sign of discretion from him :x (like "I know what's going on so now I ALSO know why it is a subject you treat delicately, look at me treating it delicately!!") So she is taking on faith the idea that he really does understand her on at least a basic level, and she's 99% sure that he at least recognized his "sin" even if he didn't outright state it, so she's satisfied with that for now .///. At this point she's not even entirely sure how to... respond... Since they've already acknowledged their love for each other and as long as Battler isn't somehow horrified by the revelation, then it's a pleasant surprise, but still sort of... OK SO NOW WHAT?! I NEVER THOUGHT THIS THROUGH THAT FAR?? It's mostly just a great relief to think of him understanding the situation and not having to worry about how he'll accept it. (There are still other things she can and will be concerned about, but this alone is a weight off of her shoulders.) By now she's coasting on being as openly affectionate for him as she feels like being, and fuck the haters!!
Honestly, at this point, Beatrice's feelings for Raven don't influence her feelings for Battler or vice versa, so the fact that it's nevertheless a thing is mostly just uncomfortable for her. IF SHE THINKS ABOUT IT TOO MUCH, she freaks out a little bit, so she generally avoids doing so :') I... I can have everything I want if only I believe!!!! IN THE GOLDEN LAND, EVERYONE CAN LOVE AND COEXIST PEACEFULLY.
How you feelin' about what you did in Erika's heart, Battler
Battler's not really sure how to feel about it?? Because on the other hand he does pity Erika a lot, especially for the way Bern and Lambda treat her, so cutting her away from Bern's influence can only be a good thing, right? Buuuuut then she brought up a lot of points about it in endgame that have him feeling a lot more unsure. Because yeah, he did go ahead and change a thing in her heart with no regard for her wishes, and that's not cool. And maybe impulse decisions like that might have unforeseen consequences who even knows??? But despite the unsurefaces, like he told Erika he doesn't really regret it. What's done is done and hopefully it won't lead to Erika fucking up his heart when she gets a chance :'D
As for what happened in room S THAT WAS NOTHING IT'S NOT LIKE I GOT HURT BY BEING CARELESS AGAIN AND I CERTAINLY DID NOT FREAK OUT AT ALL HAHA NOPE
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okay questions DO U STILL LIEK ME BATTLER...
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ALSO UH KIND...OF? I mean now that he has more memories of Lambda being A TERRIBLE PERSON WOW he is a lot more suspicious and annoyed at her! Buuuuut at least she's not as bad as Bern? And they were kind of buddies earlier in Aather and they both have logic error trauma? So while he might be less friendly, he does still kind of want to be friends with her. Because the thing with Battler is that he doesn't really want to hate people and tries to see the best in them as much as he can, so he'll probably keep trying on that front whenever he's not too grumpy to try '-'a
OH AND I FORGOT TO QUESTION DO YOU STILL LIEK ME LAMBDA???
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What memories are you looking forward to Battler getting back?
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Secondarily, memories about Ange, and about his family in general, since he has so few of those!
Reverse?
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Does Battler have any thoughts about what he'll do when he gets back all his memories?
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For the most part he doesn't really have any concrete plans since he's aware he still has such a long time to go before getting all his memories back, but he has kind of vaguely been thinking of just staying in Aather.
Reverse once again!
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How would Battler feel about following Raven and Beato back to Raven's world if that were presented as an option to him?
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How does Lambda feel about the Personae? Does she have any that she particularly likes or dislikes?
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Any thoughts on placement for Asahina?
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Do you have any app plans? If not, any particular characters/canons you'd like to see apped aside from uminekos?
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also what character do you want in aather from umineko and why!
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He kind of worries about Rose and feels that she should be more open about her feelings and such, but doesn't want to bother her about it either because he's aware he's not exactly a role model in that regard himself! All in all he largely sees her...well, if Emerald is his family, then Rose is like a cousin! So he's kind of protective of her and wants her to be okay, but isn't going to be all up in her business about it.
As for Annabeth, he is also looking for a chessboard quest and also wants to get to know her better, as Beato suggested he should do that in order to be better at chess against her '-'b
Also the character I want in Aather is a surprise to no one look at that sass goddamn. I think Ange would make for some really interesting interactions with the whole cast and of course she is very important to Battler especially! Plus she would complete the Emerald younger siblings set
If you were going to app an umineko character in aather who would it be and why!
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Also yes we should thread! I have Rose out in the last mingle and I can put Annabeth out anywhere, they are such cuties -- she will attempt to WIN ALWAYS!! at chess though because she loves winning. But she's not a bad winner, she likes learning too...
/)'w'(\ battler what a cutie!
UHM HMMM. Well I am lacking in slightly creepy but really adorable little girls and my age range in Aather can only get younger so at this point I think I would app Maria! There are a few characters I would consider, but Maria is the type of optimist I don't really have on my list of ladies at the moment (Jade aside of course, because she is not in aather). She would be a nice complement to Rose's reclusive pessimism and Annabeth's more outgoing realism.
But I have been told there are even more characters who I might love more coming up in a few episodes so I would really have to wait and see.
PICK A TEAM FOR CLEMENTINE '-'b Hard mode: not coral.
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HMM I think Clementine might be interesting on Emerald actually! Because she has that stubbornness and conviction that really characterises the team, plus she would bring a more frank and open attitude that would really help the team I think! Or maybe Tiger's Eye or something, idk I just think she'd be cute on one of the more mature teams
UMM pick teams for the cousins from Umineko! super hard mode no coral for maria
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Oh goodness hmmmm. I kind of want to put Jessica on somewhere like Sapphire! They seem like they have some genuinely good people on there who really care for everyone else, but also people that are like '-' yes let's be kind of sad and angry now!! And that's okay! Plus they wouldn't mind if she punched someone for great justice I think. George would be idk. He would be pretty bad on most teams, I think...but that may be because I don't really like him that much o o p s. I think he would do best on Amethyst.
Maria....I also like Amethyst for Maria, but I also like Turquoise as well! Because from what I've seen they seem to attract a pretty motley crew, but they all for the most part seem to be good people with a slightly weird and/or creepy past. Plus I think she would fight right in with their erratic occultish group of people -- being cute with Nia, stubborn with Echo, etc.
And then Ange is a knight because I say so!! 5ever alone Ange Ushiromiya A++
(and then Mal and the onyx knights secretly flufflove her into oblivion because we all know they are like a giant secret nest of good feelings)
NO I THINK THAT'S IT. What does Battler's mental timeline of his canon look like so far?
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around 1920s-40s?: Kinzo rebuilds the family, meets Beatrice??? and receives the gold
1968-1980: Childhood stuff in general, hanging out with the cousins and Shannon during family conferences
THEN something happens with his parents??? Maybe a divorce or something??? (he kind of suspects his mom died, but doesn't want to believe it yet) Anyway as a result he goes to live away from his dad and stops going to the conferences
Dad marries Kyrie, Ange is born
Six years something something? No memories from that time! Some time during that George and Shannon fall in love
1984: Kinzo sets up the portrait and the epitaph
1986: Something changes with the parents situation and he makes up with his dad and goes back to live with him
Some point before October 1986: Kinzo dies???
Going to the family conference!
And that's when things get kind of muddy with the shift from reality to metaworld! He's pretty sure something similar to the game plotline happened at the real world conference though.
First game:
First day:Hanging out with the cousins and Shannon, talking about Beatrice and the epitaph
Meanwhile the adults are arguing about the inheritance
The storm hits
Second day: Discovering the bodies of the first twilight victims in the shed
Arguing with the servants and Maria about Beatrice's existence
Second game:
Starting it off with Beatrice in the metaworld!
The first day goes more or less the same as in the first game, except this time Beatrice shows up as a piece herself!
Second day: The chapel closed room for the first twilight, big fight over it with Beatrice, introducing the red truth
Jessica runs off soon after the bodies have been discovered, and some time after that she and Kanon are killed in her room, which becomes another closed room
After that Rosa starts making trouble suspecting the servants and pointing her gun at people
The second game ends badly with Battler actually surrendering but regaining his will to fight? Don't remember the details of that yet though...
The Stakes get kind of rowdy between games, dying a lot
Third game: Ronove gets introduced at some point?
The first twilight is a big mess of magic battles and it's all totally ridiculous until Virgilia shows up to explain how things work
No memories of the rest of the third and fourth games and after that we're getting into spoiler territory so I think I'll cut this off here!
I KEEP FORGETTING QUESTIONS how about Rose's canon timeline?
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Grows up alone with Mom and Jaspers
Psychoanalyzes Jaspers and learns some Very Important Things
Jaspers dies
MYSTERIOUS GROWING UP SEQUENCE??? no memories here but obviously some growing happens
Jade is a mystical wizard who proclaims the game on rose's 13th birthday
Also John sends her knitting as a present! Dave sends her nothing, the jerk
On john's birthday THE WORLD ENDS WITH METEORS AND FIRE
John's first, rose follows
other kids get in she guesses???
ENTER THE MEDIUM
BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF SOME OGRES
explore land, mom is gone!!
trolls. . . . ? Kanaya ////
Oops our session is doomed from the start
BLOWS UP A GATE
laughs about it!! talks to kanaya some more
doc scratch appears and is a gigantic creeper
begins destroying temples and such for the search for the green sun
lies to john
s t u f f. . . .
MORE DOC SCRATCH also jade tells her that her mom is dead!
MINDRAPE OF THE ELDER GODS
~~~mindrape stuff~~~
Dies, wakes up on Derse! Tricks Dave into falling asleep again and runs off with the suicide mission
~~~SOMETHING HAPPENS~~~
Is on a meteor with Dave and Kanaya, Roxy and imaginary Dirk (Dirk told her this part) -- talking about moms and also her frolicking through the doomed timelines with Davesprite! Also wearing orange pajamas.
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So what does Annabeth do aside from playing chess with incompetent douches and falling asleep in the teacup? :V
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ANNABETH SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN THE LIBRARY. An inordinate amount, sometimes with Battler I'd assume, sometimes with Togame, but most of the time with Jr from Citrine. She's also found at least once a day doing a regular workout in the gym, with some variations -- she works on archery, as well as sword + shield work. She also takes regular lessons with Mithos in knife work, which she doesn't remember yet, but knows it's her absolute favorite. 'u'
Around lunch time she always goes back to Citrine and makes MEAT!!! for the crew because their resident cook is currently away with Dream on a heart game. She also checks in with all of her teammates and then, if Percy hasn't ALREADY been trailing behind her like a sad, lost puppy, he joins her and they hang out.
PLACE DAVESPRITE ON A TEAM FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES
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so maybe I will do that
you should still do Battler's current Raven feels though if there's anything new recently
also I agree your Emerald icons are pretty
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So while there is still a lot of awkward because of relationship issues, Battler's also a lot more comfortable with Raven in general which is why he felt okay coming to visit him in Tiger's Eye! Which probably means there will be less freaking out if the subject of kissing comes up again, he'll just try to laugh it off instead :|a
SO YES YOU SHOULD TELL ME ABOUT ERIKA
also thank you I am so happy with these icons omg u///u
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Though getting her logic error-setup murder memory did drop that back down a little, because really. What sort of lame closed rooms were those, that's the most predictable trick in the book. :|
She is also less confident that she actually kept him trapped since everyone keeps telling her she got beaten again, but that's mostly directed at Beatrice because she's the one offering that challenge!
Of course she's always on the lookout for ways to humiliate Battler again, because even if he did stay trapped he's clearly feeling entirely too okay about it at the moment. But you know, that's how it goes.
Battler's current feelings on Emerald?
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I think he's also only recently started feeling less like 'the new guy' so he's more on equal terms with his senior teammates and feels more comfortable being less respectful and more natural with them.
Raven on TE?
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Though they call him on that sometimes! Like Sieh did in this recent game.
In general though he loves the team and cares about them all a lot and is happy they tend to be so functional, overall, because it means they're not actually relying on him too much.
What do you think it would have been like if Battler showed up as the first Umineko character in Aather?
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I do think that I would have given him a different starter though, probably something from the first couple of episodes. That, plus not having Beatrice around and becoming aware of her feelings so soon, would have made him develop a lot more into his question arc self, as opposed to what has actually happpened with him taking on aspects both from Chiru and the question arcs! So he'd be a lot louder and more hotblooded and open about his feelings in general.
Also, without canonmates who share his experiences he'd have probably clung more tightly to his teammates more tightly and relied on them for emotional support '-'a
You gave Raven's impressions on Beatrice's timeline in your meme but what about Umineko in general? DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO HIM
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Well, mostly not. He doesn't really have a whole lot of impressions of it beyond Beatrice! Basically everything Battler tells him is news, so you have seen most of his impressions IC.
He was vaguely under the impression that the game was an intellectual battle not exactly happening in reality before, but he's a very practical person so really getting the concept doesn't come very easily to him, and he doesn't have a whole lot of concrete examples anyway, although Battler explaining the chapel closed room puzzle helped some. He understands the idea of it being an important competition or a test for Battler though! And he believes that Battler can win it, both because he gets the impression that he did before and just forgot, and because it would be sad if Beatrice had to be disappointed.
It all seems to involve a lot of misunderstandings and Beatrice maybe or maybe not murdering Battler's family, though, so he sort of thinks they should move on to better and happier things as soon as that is dealt with...! And as far as the actual setting goes he basically gets the idea Beatrice's life was kind of a terrible trap of servitude, abuse and insecurity and she isn't missing anything good by not being there now that Battler is here.
YOU HAVE APP PLANS RIGHT I wasn't paying close attention. If so tell me about them!!
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And when hero apps open, I'm apping Asahina Aoi from Dangan Ronpa! She's a ridiculously enthusiastic athlete with a love for donuts who gets involved a Battle Royale/Phoenix Wright crossover and as a result gets a really awesome
girlfriend and tons of character development!no idea if I can actually handle three characters but there's no harm in trying, right
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Yes obviously there is no harm in trying, I was pretty sure I couldn't handle three characters for most of my time in Aather AND YET HERE WE ARE
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If you were to drop one of your three and app someone else, who would it be!
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I guess under the strict parameters of the question, if I had to drop someone and app someone else, I would drop Kotetsu and app Karina from Tiger & Bunny instead. Like a reasonable person.
...Or I might app Roxy from Homestuck. :|a
TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT DANGAN RONPA IS ABOUT
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So Naegi and the other new students enter the school, but immediately pass out and wake up to find that every door and window leading to the outside has been tightly locked, trapping them inside. A stuffed toy/robot called Monobear appears, claiming to be the headmaster, and tells them the only way to get out of the school is to "graduate". The way to graduate? You have to kill one of your fellow students without being discovered by the others. If you succeed, everyone else is killed and you get out. If the others find out you're the culprit, you're killed and the others keep going. Later on, Monobear keeps providing the students with "motives": threats to loved ones, threatening to reveal everyone's darkest secrets unless a murder occurs, etc.
Eventually bodies do start appearing, and it's mostly up to Naegi to investigate and find the true culprits. Every time there is a murder, Monobear sets up a School Trial where the students must provide evidence and arguments to try and prove their innocence or someone else's guilt. The trials are very much in the style of Phoenix Wright or Umineko, with a lot of dramatic yelling and coloured text and arguments taking the form of metaphorical bullets. Alongside the murder storylines, you also get to learn a lot about each student's past and personality as well as the trying to uncover the truth about the school and the mastermind behind all these twisted events.
Basically it's a really cool and fun game and definitely worth checking out! There's an excellent Let's Play/translation of it right here!
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MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO IT ANYWAY??
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RELATIONSHIP UPDATE
...Honestly Battler has no idea what is going on with this relationship or where it is going?? He finds himself very much in love with Beatrice even though he's not entirely sure how he got there from thinking that maybe she's not entirely bad. He's okay with it though '-'a
There's two big issues there, the first of which is Raven! Because obviously he is also very close with Beatrice, and it makes Battler pretty damn jealous, especially since Raven's been there longer in Aather and because he still seems to know something Battler doesn't! But Raven is also a really cool guy and a good friend and even actively helping out with solving Beato's riddle? So there are a lot of conflicting feelings there and no idea how things could get resolved.
The second thing is that obviously Battler still hasn't figured out what Beatrice's deal is. So since he doesn't understand her motives, he has no idea how to reconcile the Beatrice from his memories with the things he's learned about her in Aather and that just makes things extra confusing!
Mostly he's just doing the same thing he has for a while now, which is to go along with what happens and wait for things to make more sense '-' Though recently I've been prioritising memories that motivate him to try and think a little harder about what it all means, so we'll see how that goes!
Reverse?
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THERE'S STILL PART OF HER THAT WONDERS HOW MUCH HE'S ACTUALLY SOLVED THE MYSTERY since he more alluded to things than actually "proved" anything to her, but she's willing to take that as a sign of discretion from him :x (like "I know what's going on so now I ALSO know why it is a subject you treat delicately, look at me treating it delicately!!") So she is taking on faith the idea that he really does understand her on at least a basic level, and she's 99% sure that he at least recognized his "sin" even if he didn't outright state it, so she's satisfied with that for now .///. At this point she's not even entirely sure how to... respond... Since they've already acknowledged their love for each other and as long as Battler isn't somehow horrified by the revelation, then it's a pleasant surprise, but still sort of... OK SO NOW WHAT?! I NEVER THOUGHT THIS THROUGH THAT FAR?? It's mostly just a great relief to think of him understanding the situation and not having to worry about how he'll accept it. (There are still other things she can and will be concerned about, but this alone is a weight off of her shoulders.) By now she's coasting on being as openly affectionate for him as she feels like being, and fuck the haters!!
Honestly, at this point, Beatrice's feelings for Raven don't influence her feelings for Battler or vice versa, so the fact that it's nevertheless a thing is mostly just uncomfortable for her. IF SHE THINKS ABOUT IT TOO MUCH, she freaks out a little bit, so she generally avoids doing so :') I... I can have everything I want if only I believe!!!! IN THE GOLDEN LAND, EVERYONE CAN LOVE AND COEXIST PEACEFULLY.
How you feelin' about what you did in Erika's heart, Battler
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As for what happened in room S THAT WAS NOTHING IT'S NOT LIKE I GOT HURT BY BEING CARELESS AGAIN AND I CERTAINLY DID NOT FREAK OUT AT ALL HAHA NOPE
Beato's feelings on said heart?